<div dir="auto">OK, I will look for a word to use! I have no idea where my old list is so I will be starting anew.</div><div dir="auto">Fran</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 10:34 AM Nicolas Ward <<a href="mailto:ultranurd@gmail.com">ultranurd@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Here are the belated gunzel results. I don't know what happened to the<br>
last month! :o( Apologies as well to Ranjit for missed including his<br>
def in the original ballot; it is included here.<br>
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Fran 9<br>
J-J 4<br>
Eric 3<br>
Joshua 3<br>
Ziv 0+1<br>
Pierre 1<br>
Hutch 0<br>
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Fran cleaned up with her tool holder fictionition, so the next round is yours!<br>
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It seems I also missed (due to s vs. z and not reading the linked<br>
Wikipedia citation) an alternate dictionary definition that Hutch<br>
knew, but as that didn't affect the results, I think we're okay? (And<br>
thank you Elliott for the full etymology... pretty wild!)<br>
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Ranjit<br>
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gunzel, n. Body glitter used by competition bodybuilders<br>
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Pierre<br>
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Fran 1<br>
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gunzel, n. Also gungel. A plant, Ardissa malundrum, in the umbellifer family,<br>
native to northern England and Scotland.<br>
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Elliott: Too sensible<br>
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Eric<br>
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Ziv 2<br>
Joshua 1<br>
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gunzel, n. A man who is inordinately attracted to women; a ladies'<br>
man; a womanizer.<br>
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Elliott: Sounds vaguely Shakespearean. "Get thee to a nunnery, thou<br>
impudent gunzel!"<br>
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J-J<br>
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Ranjit 1<br>
Elliott 2<br>
Pierre 1<br>
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gunzel, v. To misuse a corkscrew.<br>
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Ziv: Oh my...<br>
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Elliott: Sounds very plausible, but I think if it were a real<br>
dictionary entry, they would have said whether it was transitive or<br>
intransitive.<br>
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Fran<br>
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Ranjit 2<br>
Joshua 2<br>
Elliott 1<br>
Hutch 2<br>
Pierre 2<br>
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gunzel, n. A flexible holder shaped like two curved fingers with a<br>
space between them, designed to grip the handle of a tool such as a<br>
broom or rake and hold it vertically.<br>
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Ranjit: I used to have a guitar gunzel!<br>
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Elliott: I've seen things like this, and I can imagine their ancestors<br>
being used to hold guns, so sure, one point.<br>
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Nick: Then we have a pair of ukulele gunzels!<br>
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Nick/Dictionary<br>
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Train Wikipedia dive <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railfan#Other_names" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railfan#Other_names</a><br>
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Ziv 1<br>
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gunzel, n. A train enthusiast; a railfan.<br>
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Ziv: One point for delight<br>
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Eric: I need to recuse myself, because just this moment, while reading<br>
about the etymology of "gunsel" I inadvertently learnt about gunzels!<br>
I am so sad. And I never would have pegged that as the true<br>
definition.<br>
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Elliott: In case you don't have access to it, the Oxford English<br>
Dictionary says: Apparently a borrowing from Yiddish. Etymon: Yiddish<br>
gendzl. Etymology: < Yiddish gendzl boy, youth, extended use of gendzl<br>
gosling < Middle High German genselīn gosling, (in extended use)<br>
conceited or silly girl (German Gänslein ; < gans goose n. + -līn,<br>
suffix forming diminutives). Specific use denoting a sexual partner is<br>
not recorded in dictionaries of either Yiddish or German, and probably<br>
developed within English. Sense 2 reflects a misapprehension of the<br>
use by Dashiell Hammett in his novel The Maltese Falcon (1929).<br>
Hammett found gunsel in a dictionary, where it was euphemistically<br>
glossed as ‘a boy hired for immoral purposes’, and decided to use it<br>
in a context where the meaning was not clear (see quot. 1929 at sense<br>
1), in order to play a prank on the prudish editor of his novel.<br>
Subsequent authors associated gunsel with gun n. and began to use it<br>
in an assumed sense ‘gunman’ in their own pulp fiction.<br>
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Joshua<br>
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Fran 2<br>
Hutch 1<br>
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gunzel, n. A paste made from wild barley or wheat, often used as an adhesive.<br>
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Hutch<br>
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gunzel, n. A gunman or armed bodyguard, esp. in organized crime.<br>
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Hutch: Mine. This is the modern definition of "gunsel". Dashiell<br>
Hammett used the term in The Maltese Falcon to describe the<br>
relationship between Gutman and the young gunman Wilmer. His editor,<br>
the publisher's censor, and even the movie censor believed it to mean<br>
gunman (as Hammett apparently intended), but it really means/meant a<br>
young, "kept" homosexual lover: <a href="https://www.etymonline.com/word/gunsel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.etymonline.com/word/gunsel</a><br>
</blockquote></div></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"><i>Fran Poodry (she/her)</i></div><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"><i>Oregon, USA</i></div><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"><i><br></i></div><div style="font-size:small"><i><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);font-size:14px;line-height:18px">“Children must be taught how to think, not what to think.” </span><br style="color:rgb(24,24,24);font-size:14px;line-height:18px"><span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);font-size:14px;line-height:18px">― </span><a href="http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/61107.Margaret_Mead" style="color:rgb(102,102,0);text-decoration:none;font-size:14px;line-height:18px" target="_blank">Margaret Mead</a></font><br></i></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>