<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>If I did the accounting and the arithmetic correctly, the winner of this round is Eric with his M*A*S*H hash. Congratulations!</div><div><br></div><div>General comments:</div><div>Elliott: "Konzo" elicited three Japanese etymologies, and, as I mentioned in my reply to your email earlier, I would have done the same if I'd added an etymology to my own definition. It<br>does have that Sino-Japanese sound to it.</div><div>Ranjit: I guess it looks like a japanese word to a lot of us</div><div>Hutch: I was going to vote -10 for the joke definition, then try to convince you that this means I should get <b>-</b>(<b>-</b>5) points. However, I see at least three that could be joke definitions.<span class="gmail-im"></span>
</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><span>konzo - n. - (fr. Igbo) A taboo-breacher who is to be sold as a slave.</span></div></div></blockquote><div>by David. Nick 1, Pierre 1 = 2 points</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>
<span>konzo - n. - (derived from American Sign Language) - A rebus with no solution.</span></div></div></blockquote><div>David's joke definition. Elliott 2</div><div>Nick: I wonder how a pronunciation would be assigned</div><div>Pierre: There's a standard way to map English into ASL (fingerspelling, and a letter in the English word may become the handshape of the ASL word), but no standard map from ASL to English, so an ASL word being borrowed as "konzo" is highly unlikely.<span class="gmail-im"><br></span></div><div><span class="gmail-im">Elliott: </span>
I like the idea of loan words from ASL into English. How might that happen? Are there fingerspelled words in ASL that are original to ASL, and could be easily transliterated? Two points for thinkiness.<span class="gmail-im"><br></span>
</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div></div><div><span>konzo - n. - A dish of chopped vegetables, ground meat, and fried noodles, created for U.S. troops in Korea.</span></div></div></blockquote><div>by Eric. David 1, Nick 2, Elliott 1, Hutch 1, plus 2 for correct guess = 7 points.</div><div>David:
1 point for anodyne plausibility.</div><div>Pierre:
There is a jamo for /z/ (ㅿ), but it's obsolete, as the sound vanished centuries ago.<span class="gmail-im"><br></span>
</div><div>Elliott:
Maybe a stealth fourth Japanese definition, since many the of U.S. forces in the Korean War were based in, and supplied via, Japan, and hence could have been eating food with a Japanese name. If that were the real definition, though, I'd expect that it would still be on the menu as a nostalgia item in Korean restaurants in the U.S. One point.<span class="gmail-im"><br></span> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>
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<span>konzo - n. - A fish of the species Larimichthys konzo, in the croaker
family, found around Shikoku, whose swim bladder is held to have
medicinal properties.</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div> <span>by Pierre. Ranjit 1</span>, plus 2 for correct guess = 3 points.</div><div><span>Ranjit: </span>
1 point mostly because I'm imagining a cute painting of a chubby fish like Matsumoto Hoji's famous frog.
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<div>konzo - adj. - (classic and retro video game community) - of music or
especially sound effects, excellent, surprising. From Koji KONDO
(composer at Nintendo) + GONZO.</div></div></div></blockquote><div>by Ranjit. Eric 1 = 1 point.</div><div>Eric:
And I'm sure this is wrong but I like it anyway. One point.</div><div>Nick:
I think I would have heard this term, especially in the most recent episode of 20000 Hz <a href="https://overcast.fm/+AAMLcZqW4yY" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/+AAMLcZqW4yY</a></div><div>Elliott:
But what does GONZO mean? I only know the Muppet Gonzo and Hunter S.<br>Thompson's "Gonzo Journalism".</div><div>[A deep dive into that: <a href="https://beatdom.substack.com/p/uncovering-the-origins-of-gonzo-on">https://beatdom.substack.com/p/uncovering-the-origins-of-gonzo-on</a> ]</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div></div>
konzo - n. - 1. A traffic jam of hot-air balloons ascending and descending over the same spot. 2. Obstruction of the mind by an attempt to rethink too many beliefs at once.</div></div></blockquote><div>by Elliott, who lost half his wager by voting for the joke definition and nets -1 point.</div><div>Nick: I want there to be a term for 2.</div><div>Pierre:
No clue what language this is from.<span class="gmail-im"><br></span></div><div><span class="gmail-im">Ranjit: </span>
This one gets the honorary Elliott-or-maybe-Jim award 🏅
</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>konzo - n. - A hand lettering style in which ascenders and descenders
remain vertical but horizontals become oblique and parallel to the
desired layout angle. From the Japanese calligraphic style.</div></div></blockquote><div>by Nick. Ranjit 2, Hutch 2 = 4 points.</div><div>Nick: Mine (inspired by a crafting YouTube video kid was watching)<span class="gmail-im"><br></span>
</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>konzo - n. - An epidemic paralytic disease occurring among hunger-stricken rural populations in Africa where a diet dominated by insufficiently processed cassava results in simultaneous malnutrition and high dietary cyanide intake. [fr. Yaka "tied legs"]</div></div></blockquote><div>True definition. Eric 2, Pierre 2 = 4 points.</div><div>Eric:
I don't care whether this is right, it is lovely. Two points.<span class="gmail-im"><br></span>
</div><div>Pierre:
Two points. There are five languages called Yaka, all Bantu, so it's possible
to find a Yaka-Yaka interpreter who doesn't know Yaka.<span class="gmail-im"><br></span></div><div><span class="gmail-im">Nick:</span> This could be real...
</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>konzo - n. - [Port. konzo, agreement; from the legendary "O Konzo"
between several Alani and Hasdingi chieftains who agreed that the last
of them alive would take command of all their tribes; credited with
forming the central group of the Vandal invasion and conquest of North
Africa in 428] An agreement, similar to the French *tontine*, where the
last survivor takes ownership of the entire value of the investment.</div></div></blockquote><div>by Hutch. David 2 = 2 points.</div><div>David:
2 points for the gonzo konzo.</div><div>Pierre: 'k' is a foreign letter in Portuguese.</div><div>Nick: Hmm wouldn't Vandals have a more Germanic language origin?
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