Ooh, I won! My def is based on Jacques de Langre, an expert on salt, and the method of harvesting salt in Brittany. I have a jar of Celtic Sea Salt; it's my favorite kind of salt. The next word is "andabate". Let me know if you know it; hopefully my connection will stay up well enough to receive replies. phma -- li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa