[Fictionary] dogdrave results: fiddler wins!

[Hutch]

When I looked for it, I found it first in Google Books: _The Durham
household book_ By Durham Cathedral
(http://books.google.com/books?id=H_MQAAAAMAAJ). This is a copy of the
accounting books of Durham Cathedral in the 1530's. It would not
surprise me in the least if this is what the OED cites?

Looking further, I found it again in Google Books: _The Sailor's
Word-book_ By William Henry Smyth, Edward Belcher, 1867, p. 255
(http://books.google.com/books?id=y7HqO9XAwk8C) gives the definition
of "dog-drave" (*with* a hyphen) as "a kind of sea-fish mentioned in
early charters."

It also gives a possible (!!!) related meaning in the fourth and fifth
definition below: "dogger. A Dutch smack ... principally used for
fishing on the Dogger Bank" and "dogger-fish. Fish bought out of the
Dutch doggers." Seems possible that "dog-drave" and "dogger-fish" are
related? There is also "dog-tongue. A name assigned to a kind of
sole."

BB,
Hutch

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On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma at phma.optus.nu> wrote:
[snippety]
> dogdrave, n. Some kind of sea-fish used for food.
> by Oxford E. Dictionary.
> Hutch: "some kind of" just doesn't ring of a dictionary.
> Elliott: No pretense of omniscience here!  Hence, probably not from a real
> dictionary.
> [Looking it up after voting:]  Holy smokes!  It's directly out of the OED!
> Very nice.