[Fictionary] OCHE results

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I think the intensity of an expletive depends on the person swearing and the circumstances, but what about using it facetiously, like Alas!  Linda

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From: Ranjit Bhatnagar <ranjit at moonmilk.com>
To: fictionary <fictionary at swarpa.net>
Subject: [Fictionary] OCHE results
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 11:10:52 -0400

Aaaaand we have Pierre's jewel-prongs with 11 points, narrowly defeating thefreedictionary.com's darts mark.  Congratulations, Pierre!  And apologies to all for neglecting the ballot for 3 weeks.  My excuse - I got distracted by Paris.
- ranjitp.s. apparently it's pronounced kind of like "hockey" and was once spelled that way.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oche 

Pierre:
oche, n. A device for holding a jewel, consisting of several arms closed partway over the jewel with pliers.9 points + 2 for correct guess


Jim - 2 pointsNicolas - 2 points: I suspect there probably is a real word for this, but not sure this is it.
Hutch - 2 pointsElliott - I've seen settings that work that way, but ``device'' suggests to me a tool rather than part of a ring.J-J - 1 point: Sounds like the way many diamond rings are constructed.  I'll give it one.
Linda - 2 points for the jewel-holding device


David:
oche - n. - a fairy's slave2 points + 2 for correct guess
Eric - 2 points: What a great idea.Elliott - Ahh, like Tam Lin!  Could be, I suppose.J-J - It almost seems like there should be a Phil Ochs joke here (and if you decide to try to figure out what I mean by that, be warned that your journey may turn out to be NSFW).


Linda:
Oche, expletive.  Fr. Afrikaans.  Used mildly, it means something like "RATS!"  Used more wildly, it is more like an unprintable expletive.  Possibly derived from a word that means "Ache".  Used somewhat like the German "ACH!"
Elliott - Hunh, that's interesting.  Can you think of any English swear word that can be used with two intensities?  (I can't, but I'm not one of our country's great swearers.)J-J - I'm going to reject "ache" defs, just because.


Elliott:
oche (n.) -- A hat equipped with a sound-collecting brim for hearing sermons, reputedly also used for eavesdropping.
1 point + 2 for correct guess


Jim - You know, I think there is serious publishing potential in an illustrated book that collects all of Elliott's whimsical inventions from fictionary entries.Nicolas - This is a great visual, but can't be real, can it?David - 1 pointEric - My vote for "most likely to be by Elliott".Elliott - It would be more effective as a combination of a hat and a starched ruff, but that just sounded too ridiculous.J-J - Dripping with Elliottude.

Hutch:
oche - n. - [ comp. "ache" ] a non-painful, continuous physical sensation, usu. not very strong
1 point for correct guess
J-J - Another "ache" def.



thefreedictionary.com:
oche, n (darts) the mark or ridge on the floor behind which a player must stand to throw
[of unknown origin; perhaps connected with obsolete oche to chop off, from Old French ocher to cut a notch in]10 points
Jim - 1 pointNicolas - 1 point: Plausible.David - 2 pointsEric - 1 point: Etymology is usually the scarlet letter of fakeness, but less implausible than some, so one point.Hutch - 1 pointPierre - 2 pointsElliott - 2 points: Sure, why not?J-J - Surely somebody would have known this.

Nicolas:
oche, n. (fm. Chinese) A bell hung from a horn, used by Uighur herdsmen to track their animals.
1 point + 1 for correct guess
Pierre - 1 pointElliott - Yurt alert!J-J - I first pictured the bell as hanging from the kind of horn that you blow through, rather than the kind that grows out of the head of an animal, and I wondered exactly how it was used.  I also figured, well, this round is being run by a noted musical instrument inventor...


Eric:
oche, adj. in an awkward and lazy manner.2 points + 1 for correct guess

Jim - Tempting to vote for an adjective. But... awkward *and* lazy? Awkward implies a wasteful expenditure of effort in doing something; lazy, the expenditure of as little effort as possible.  So I can't vote for it.Nicolas - A rare adjective def. Makes me think it would rhyme with "gauche" for some reason.
Elliott - Awkward *and* lazy?  I've done that biathlon, yes.J-J - 2 points: The sort of beige, easily overlooked def that often turns out to be right.  But maybe that's just what someone wants me to think!  Two point anyway.



Jean-Joseph:
oche - n. - Variant of oak.
2 points
Eric: Not implausible, just too boring to be a real def. Unless it's a double fake-out. . . .Elliott - 1 point: Conspicuously inconspicuous.  J-J - Mine.  This sort of thing is worth a try once in a while.Linda - 1 point for the oak variant


Jim:no def, but 1 point for correct guess
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