<html>Yes, I was thinnking of the subcontinent in my menial-servant def. Anyone ever see Bride and Prejudice? Highly recommended for all sorts of reasons--humor, dances, foods, music, costumes, characters, menial servants, and similarity to Pride and Prejudice. Linda<BR>---------- Original Message ----------<BR>From: J-J Cote <jjcote@alum.mit.edu><BR>To: fictionary group <fictionary@swarpa.net><BR>Subject: [Fictionary] doosra results<BR>Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 21:30:06 -0400<BR><BR>The final ballot received pushed the soup past the loofah gleanings. And everybody got points. It's all yours, Ranjit!<BR><BR>Jean-Joseph<BR>_________________________________________________<BR><BR>Jim: "I like a lot of these definitions; congratulations all around!"<BR>No definition from Jim, but one point for a correct guess.<BR><BR>doosra - n. - Armenian chickpea soup.<SPAN><BR>from Ranjit. David 2, Nicolas 2, Elliott 2 = 6 points and victory<BR>Linda: </SPAN><SPAN><SPAN>"food. Judith?"<BR>Elliott: "</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN>By far the most plausible of the non-Subcontinental defs."<BR><BR></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>doosra - n. - 1. An imported plant. 2. A waste of water.<BR>from Nicolas. Jim 2 = 2 points<BR>Linda: "</SPAN><SPAN><SPAN>waste, reminiscent of bagasse-related words"</SPAN><BR>Jim: "</SPAN><SPAN>2 points for not having an obviously-subcontinental origin."<BR>Elliott: "</SPAN><SPAN>I'd want to see a little more etymology before committing to this one. "<BR><BR></SPAN>doosra - n. - [Trinidadian dial.] - Hindu-language reggae.<BR>from David. Eric 1, Jacob 1 = 2 points<BR>Linda: "do they speak Hindi in Trinidad?"<BR>Eric: "I imagine it would be "Hindi"-language, but it probably exists and I like the idea."<BR>Jacob: "one vote and I want to hear some"<BR>Elliott: "First of the Subcontinental defs. ``sr'' says ``India'' like ``sch'' says ``Germany''. I'll seize on it as a reason to eliminate defs."<BR><BR>doosra - n. - The wake left in a crowd by the passage of an elephant. <BR><SPAN>from Elliott. Ranjit 1, David 1, Eric 2 = 4 points<BR>Linda: "</SPAN><SPAN>space and perhaps waste?"<BR>Eric: "</SPAN><SPAN>After all, if we've had glip (the wake of a whale). . . . "<BR>Jim: "</SPAN><SPAN>The Elliott-whimsy is strong with this one! But no points."<BR>Elliott: "</SPAN><SPAN>Second Subcontinental def. "<BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN></SPAN>doosra - n. - [fr. several S. Indian dialects] A menial servant, usually initially unskilled, who assists a more skilled servant with household tasks.<BR>from Linda. Nicolas 1 = 1 point<BR>Elliott: "Third Subcontinental def."<BR><BR><SPAN>doosra - n. - [British Indian slang] A newcomer, a greenhorn. Derived from the habit of using cardamom sauce ("doosra") on all foods indiscriminately.<BR>from Jacob. Linda 2 = 2 points<BR>Linda: "</SPAN><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN>Cardamom, yum!"<BR>Jim: "</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN>I'd vote for this if the word 'greenhorn' weren't there -- it feels too slangy to be in a dictionary definition, even one of a slang term."<BR>Elliott: "</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN>Fourth Subcontinental def."<BR><BR></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>doosra - n. - [fr. Turk. <I class=moz-txt-slash><SPAN class=moz-txt-tag></SPAN>djusra<SPAN class=moz-txt-tag></SPAN></I>, dead] The dirt and dead skin removed by the loofah glove (asindirmak) following the warm full body wash in a traditional Turkish bath.<BR>from Eric. Ranjit 2, Linda 1, Jacob 2 = 5 points<BR>Linda: "<SPAN>more waste, but one vote because I love loofahs."</SPAN><BR>Jacob: "two votes for plausible extra words"<BR>Elliott: "Gross enough to vote for, but I'm not convinced that ``djusra'' looks Turkish."<BR><BR>doosra - n. - [fr. Ar. <I>do osrah</I>, the place of the children of Osrah (mythical Arabic city, one of the reputed sites of the Garden of Eden)] Fertile land; more generally, land that is not desert.<BR>from Hutch. Elliott 1 = 1 point<BR>Linda: "<SPAN>honorable mention because I was thinking of the Arabian Nights recently."</SPAN><BR>Elliott: "OK, this is pretty creative and well away from India."<BR><BR><SPAN>doosra - n. - </SPAN><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN>[fr. Urdu <I>doosra</I>, </SPAN>"(the) other (one)"] </SPAN>A particular type of delivery by an off-spin bowler in the sport of cricket. The doosra spins in the opposite direction to an off break (the off-spinner's default delivery), and aims to confuse the batsman into playing a poor shot.<BR>from Wikipedia. Jim 1 = 1 point<BR></SPAN><SPAN>Linda: "</SPAN><SPAN><SPAN>Isn't that a googly?" [Well, close, but not exactly. </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN></SPAN>Wikipedia further explains, "The doosra is the off-spinner's equivalent of the leg-spinner's googly, which spins in the opposite direction to the leg spinner's stock ball."]<BR><SPAN>Elliott: "</SPAN><SPAN>Fifth Subcontinental def."<BR></SPAN><BR></html>
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