<html>I think the intensity of an expletive depends on the person swearing and the circumstances, but what about using it facetiously, like Alas! Linda<BR><BR>---------- Original Message ----------<BR>From: Ranjit Bhatnagar <ranjit@moonmilk.com><BR>To: fictionary <fictionary@swarpa.net><BR>Subject: [Fictionary] OCHE results<BR>Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 11:10:52 -0400<BR><BR>
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<DIV>Aaaaand we have Pierre's jewel-prongs with 11 points, narrowly defeating <A href="http://thefreedictionary.com/">thefreedictionary.com</A>'s darts mark. Congratulations, Pierre! And apologies to all for neglecting the ballot for 3 weeks. My excuse - I got distracted by Paris.</DIV>
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<DIV>p.s. apparently it's pronounced kind of like "hockey" and was once spelled that way. <A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oche">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oche</A><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 13px"> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR><B>Pierre</B>:<BR>oche, n. A device for holding a jewel, consisting of several arms closed partway over the jewel with pliers.
<DIV>9 points + 2 for correct guess<BR><BR><BR>Jim - 2 points</DIV>
<DIV>Nicolas - 2 points: <SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">I suspect there probably is a real word for this, but not sure this is </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">it.</SPAN><BR>
<DIV>Hutch - 2 points</DIV>
<DIV>Elliott - <SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">I've seen settings that work that way, but ``device'' suggests to me a tool rather than part of a ring.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="arial, sans-serif">J-J - 1 point: </FONT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">Sounds like the way many diamond rings are constructed. I'll give it one.</SPAN><FONT face="arial, sans-serif"><BR></FONT>Linda - 2 points for the jewel-holding device<BR><BR><BR><B>David</B>:<BR>oche - n. - a fairy's slave</DIV>
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<DIV>Eric - 2 points: What a great idea.</DIV>
<DIV>Elliott - <SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">Ahh, like Tam Lin! Could be, I suppose.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="arial, sans-serif">J-J - </FONT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">It almost seems like there should be a Phil Ochs joke here (and if you decide to try to figure out what I mean by that, be warned that your journey may turn out to be NSFW).</SPAN><FONT face="arial, sans-serif"><BR></FONT><BR><BR><B>Linda</B>:<BR>Oche, expletive. Fr. Afrikaans. Used mildly, it means something like "RATS!" Used more wildly, it is more like an unprintable expletive. Possibly derived from a word that means "Ache". Used somewhat like the German "ACH!"</DIV>
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<DIV>Elliott - <SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">Hunh, that's interesting. Can you think of any English swear word that can be used with two intensities? (I can't, but I'm not one of our country's great swearers.)</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="arial, sans-serif">J-J - </FONT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">I'm going to reject "ache" defs, just because.</SPAN><FONT face="arial, sans-serif"><BR></FONT><BR><BR><B>Elliott</B>:<BR>oche (n.) -- A hat equipped with a sound-collecting brim for hearing sermons, reputedly also used for eavesdropping.</DIV>
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<DIV>1 point + 2 for correct guess<BR><BR><BR>Jim - <SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">You know, I think there is serious publishing potential in an illustrated book that collects all of Elliott's whimsical inventions from fictionary entries.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="arial, sans-serif">Nicolas - </FONT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">This is a great visual, but can't be real, can it?</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="arial, sans-serif">David - 1 point</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="arial, sans-serif">Eric - </FONT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">My vote for "most likely to be by Elliott".</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="arial, sans-serif">Elliott - </FONT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">It would be more effective as a combination of a hat and a starched ruff, but that just sounded too ridiculous.</SPAN>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px" class=im>J-J - <SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(34,34,34)">Dripping with Elliottude.</SPAN></DIV><BR><BR><B>Hutch</B>:<BR>oche - n. - [ comp. "ache" ] a non-painful, continuous physical sensation, usu. not very strong<BR>1 point for correct guess</DIV>
<DIV><BR>J-J - <SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">Another "ache" def.</SPAN><BR><BR><BR><BR><B><A href="http://thefreedictionary.com/">thefreedictionary.com</A>:</B><BR>oche, n (darts) the mark or ridge on the floor behind which a player must stand to throw<BR>[of unknown origin; perhaps connected with obsolete oche to chop off, from Old French ocher to cut a notch in]</DIV>
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<DIV>Jim - 1 point</DIV>
<DIV>Nicolas - 1 point: Plausible.</DIV>
<DIV>David - 2 points</DIV>
<DIV>Eric - 1 point: <SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">Etymology is usually the scarlet letter of fakeness, but less implausible than some, so one point.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">Hutch - 1 point</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">Pierre - 2 points</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">Elliott - 2 points: </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">Sure, why not?</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>J-J - <SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">Surely somebody would have known this.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><B>Nicolas</B>:<BR>oche, n. (fm. Chinese) A bell hung from a horn, used by Uighur herdsmen to track their animals.<BR>1 point + 1 for correct guess</DIV>
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<DIV>Pierre - 1 point</DIV>
<DIV>Elliott - <SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">Yurt alert!</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">J-J - </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">I first pictured the bell as hanging from the kind of horn that you blow through, rather than the kind that grows out of the head of an animal, and I wondered exactly how it was used. I also figured, well, this round is being run by a noted musical instrument inventor...</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><BR><BR><B>Eric</B>:<BR>oche, adj. in an awkward and lazy manner.</DIV>
<DIV>2 points + 1 for correct guess</DIV>
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<DIV>Jim - <SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">Tempting to vote for an adjective. But... awkward *and* lazy? Awkward implies a wasteful expenditure of effort in doing something; lazy, the expenditure of as little effort as possible. So I can't vote for it.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">Nicolas - </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">A rare adjective def. Makes me think it would rhyme with "gauche" for </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">some reason.</SPAN><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="arial, sans-serif">Elliott - </FONT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">Awkward *and* lazy? I've done that biathlon, yes.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">J-J - 2 points: </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">The sort of beige, easily overlooked def that often turns out to be right. But maybe that's just what someone wants me to think! Two point anyway.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="arial, sans-serif"><BR></FONT><BR><BR><B>Jean-Joseph</B>:<BR>oche - n. - Variant of oak.<BR></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Eric: <SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">Not implausible, just too boring to be a real def. Unless it's a double fake-out. . . .</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">Elliott - 1 point: </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">Conspicuously inconspicuous. </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>J-J - <SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">Mine. This sort of thing is worth a try once in a while.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">Linda - 1 point for the oak variant</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>no def, but 1 point for correct guess</DIV></DIV></html>
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