<html><div>i THOUGHT WE WeRE USING eNGLISH. liNDA oops, caps lock again.<br><br>---------- Original Message ----------<br>From: Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org><br>To: fictionary@swarpa.net<br>Subject: [Fictionary] The zemi-john didn't cross the Atlantic to travel on the sacbe<br>Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 14:44:11 -0500<br><br>but neither did the gnammas cross the Indian Ocean and Mediterranean Sea to <br>meet the tafoni.<br><br>While you were sending me defs, a lad traveled by zemi-john looking for a <br>nonexistent package. https://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=260752<br><br>"Zemi-john" is from a Gbe language; you wouldn't hear it in Bamako, where they <br>speak a Mande language.<br><br>Hutch wins with the keg. Take it away, Hutch!<br><br>Pierre<br>-----<br>sacbe [pl. sacbim] - n. - keg; an obscure liquid measure equaling 50-60<br>zemi-john [or demi-john], or approximately 15-20 gallons; loosely, the<br>limit of weight in a barrel, crate, or other package to be lifted and moved<br>by a single man<br>by Hutch. 9<br>Jim: 2<br>Nicolas: 2 points for obscure units of measure.<br>Eric: One point, for using the Hebrew plural "im", but I'm glad I'm not a <br>stevedore in this person's world, am I really supposed to shift that <br>weight by myself?<br>J-J: Hmm, two definitions regarding vessels for liquid. Nice irregular <br>plural, and I can't really think of any good wisecracks, so I'll have to <br>give it two points.<br>Josh B: Two points for "sacbe = 50-60 zemi-john".<br><br>sacbe - n. (fr. Friulian) - poisoned marzipan<br>zemi-john - n. (fr. Neapolitan) - a corrupt apothecary, specializing in sacbe.<br>zemi-zany.<br>by David Randall. 4<br>Ranjit: 1<br>Eric: Two points. For once, my big points go to the deliberately entertaining.<br>J-J: So obviously and preposterously fabricated. And good for one point.<br><br>sacbe (n) also sackby, saccaby; pl. sacbe (pron. sacbah), sackbia,<br>saccabia: a legendary stew or soup whose ingredients are controversial. In<br>the 17th and 18th centuries it was often made with woodwort or zemi-john,<br>while in modern recreations peucedanum is usually substituted.<br>by Ranjit. 4<br>2 points for crossing the Atlantic<br>David: 1<br>Jim: 1<br>J-J: Boy, is this ever reminiscent of "salacacaby", if anybody remembers that <br>from 1997. If there really is a connection, I'll refrain from <br>exploiting my prior knowledge.<br><br>sacbe - n. - A pilgrim who has not brought any candles. (pl. saksbe)<br>zemi-john - n. - A kiosk near a pilgrimage site selling candles and <br>other devotional items.<br>by Jean-Joseph. 3<br>David: 2<br>Nicolas: Tempting on sac[red] grounds.<br>J-J: Mine. This is just a deranged riff on "Saxby Chambliss", which I didn't <br>even know how to spell until I looked it up just now.<br>Josh B: One point for the pilgrim w/o candles (vote of appreciation; I'm not <br>all<br>that convinced by the definition.)<br><br>zemi-john (British spelling hemi-john) n. A style of long underwear worn <br>by French<br>royalty, with a distinctive fastening (sacbe) connecting to the <br>corresponding<br>upper undergarment.<br>by Josh Burdick. 2<br>Linda: 2<br>Nicolas: This sounds like the start of a fairy tale.<br>J-J: Longue-johns? You'd think, being French, that it would be "jeans", but <br>that's outerwear.<br><br>zemi-john, n. A West African motorcycle taxi. Also zemidjan, zémidjan.<br>sacbe, n, pl. sacbeob. A Mesoamerican highway.<br>the truth. 2<br>Ranjit: 2<br>Nicolas: I don't remember hearing this one in Bamako.<br>J-J: So... so... what's the connection? How did the motorcycle cross the <br>Atlantic? (But I really like the plural form.)<br><br>sacbe, n. fm. French The SACBEEs were an elite unit of WWII-era combat <br>engineers centered around forward deployment of portable folding bridges or <br>zemi-johns.<br>by Nicolas Ward. 1<br>Linda: 1<br>J-J: Sounds Linda-ish.<br><br>1) zemi-john, n, a large container for liquids <br>2) sacbe, n. past sackwas. any regional home-brewed alcoholic beverage. He <br>stored the sacbe in zemi-johns. <br>by Linda. 0<br>J-J: Aside from the detail that, in English, we don't often decline nouns <br>into a "past" case...<br><br>Linda:<br>Pierre, What a great combo, despite the linguistic confusion. Two points for <br>the underwear, and one for the Seabees, errrrr Sacbees. Hon. Men. for the <br>candle sellers.<br><br>-- <br>The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain.</p></html>
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