[Fictionary] Re: streuble cabbaging frogmouth hurrah

[Ranjit Bhatnagar]

Correction: Fran's def got 2 points. I probably made other elementary
counting errors in the ballot that I haven't spotted yet - but I'm pretty
sure Nora won anyway.

On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Ranjit Bhatnagar <ranjit at moonmilk.com>
wrote:

> The eyes have it! The real definitions are from an article about cheese
> making. The holes in Swiss cheese are known as "eyes". More details below.
>
> And the winner is Nora with 16 points - probably one of the largest leads
> ever won by a definition that wasn't the real one. Take the wheel, Nora -
> it's your turn to drive the bus!
>
> (You might notice that Pierre cast three 1-point votes rather than a
> 2-pointer and a 1-pointer. Is that legal? I'm going to allow it, but I
> invite you all to glare sullenly at Pierre if you disapprove. I attribute
> it to youthful high spirits.)
>
> - Ranjit
>
>
>
> *Fran: 1 point*
> streuble - n. - wooden disk for pressing fermenting sauerkraut below the
> liquid level in the frogmouth
> cabbaging - n. - a weight for holding the streuble down, often decorated
> with carving.
> frogmouth - n. - crock for fermenting sauerkraut in
>
> Nora: These terms are related, and having to do with German things, and
> streuble sounds Germanic, so I will give this definition one point!
>
> Josh: 1 point (I'm not sure I believe it, but think it deserves credit
> for something)
>
> Nicolas: To quote Weird Al: I. HATE. SAUERKRAUT.
>
> Hutch: I'd love for these to be the words, but I just can't believe the
> phrasing of the streuble definition.
>
> Elliott: ``Crock'' is no doubt meant as a coded hint, which I hereby take.
>
>
>
> *Nora: 16 points*
> streuble, n. in lace-making, the finest part of the lace that connects
> the more substantial and intricate needlework.
> cabbaging, n. large, goffered ruffles, layered about the neck in
> decorative 18th and 19th century men's clothing.
> frogmouth, n. in the industrial process of knitting, the term for the hole
> created by the machinery as it makes the tubes for sweaters, sleeves,
> socks, etc.
>
> Fran: 2 points
> Nicolas: 2 points, on the grounds that I somehow got close to the real
> def. That or someone else was thinking much like me.
>
> David: 2 points
>
> Hutch: 2 points. related but only distantly. All three definitions are
> phrased very believably.
>
> Elliott: Interesting and plausible.  In fact, by far the most plausible
> def of the lot.  Two points.
>
> Josh: 2 points
>
> Linda: 2 points - My great-grandmother was a lace-maker, and I've been
> neglecting my fiber arts lately.
>
> Pierre: I'm waffling between ruffles and frills. One point for each.
>
> Jean-Joseph: One point.
>
>
>
> *Linda: 2 points*
> streuble, n.  A unit of measurement relating to possible voting
> percentages in an upcoming election.
> cabbaging, v.  Trying to bolster a candidate's attibutes by filling up his
> or her biography with attributes that may or may not be true, but could be
> true.
> frogmouth, n.  A politician who waffles a lot on issues.
>
> Nicolas: 1 point for picturing the current slate of frogmouths.
>
> Pierre: British left waffles on Falklands. Who ate them? One point and
> fifteen streubles.
>
> Eric: Cabbaging is a lovely thought, though no points.
>
> Nora: Hahaha! Gets my laugh votes.
>
> Hutch: That last one definitely OUGHT to be right.
>
>
>
>
> *How Does Swiss Cheese Get Its Holes?*
> *The New Yorker, June 10, 2015
> <http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/how-does-swiss-cheese-get-its-holes> -
> 2 points*
> streuble, n. an overabundance of small eyes
> cabbaging, n. overcrowded, irregular eyes
> frogmouth, n. spindle-shaped eyes
>
> *“It’s the hardest cheese to make well,” Stephanie Clark, a dairy
> specialist at Iowa State University, told me. “There are so many steps in
> the process, and the list of things that can go wrong is almost endless.”
> In addition to blindness, Swiss cheese can suffer from streuble (an
> overabundance of small eyes just under the rind); cabbaging (overcrowded,
> irregular eyes); frogmouth (spindle-shaped eyes); or any one of about a
> dozen other defects, including dull or dead eyes, in which the eye walls
> lack what Clark described as the “preferred shiny lustre.”*
>
> Jean-Joseph: 2 points.
>
> Nicolas: Creepy.
>
> Nora: Spiders!
>
> Hutch: The eyes have it? No, sorry
>
> Elliott: What's the normative number of eyes?  And what kind of eyes are
> we talking about here?  The ones you see with?  The ones you stick thread
> through?
>
>
>
> *Nicolas: 6 points*
> streuble, n. A high-necked bodice, similar to a dirndl.
> cabbaging, n. A multilayer decorative frill emerging from sleeve or
> collar; popular in late 19th century Saxony.
> frogmouth, n. 1. An extremely pronounced grimace or frown triggered by
> pulling the platysma taut. 2. A historical medical diagnosis, probably
> thyromegaly.
>
> I'm sorry, Nicolas - I lost track of your sample sentence while compiling
> the ballot:  "As everyone knows, improper cabbaging on your streuble can
> lead to frogmouth."
>
> Eric: Two points. Based mostly on the frogmouth. And the ridiculousness
> of all the other contenders. Although isn't a dirndl a kind of skirt . . . ?
>
> Nora: This person thinks like me, or is the dictionary because of the
> clothing reference. Also, I like that frogmouth is a deep frown, which
> seems plausible, but not as related. But it makes me think of Beeker from
> the old Muppet Show!  Two points
>
> Pierre: I'm waffling between ruffles and frills. One point for each. Besides,
> I'm guessing, some body part that is wide or flat, "platysma" is also Lojban
> for making planned silence.
>
> Linda: 1 point- Need to resume sewing medieval costumes for SCA--my son
> Greg and his family are very active, with his wife Daphne having quite an
> input and output.
>
> Hutch: The first two are great, but how is a grimace or frown related to
> the other two. Ranjit said the word had related meanings ... I think?
>
> Elliott: Hmm, another frothy-lace def for ``cabbaging''.  Frilly,
> colorful ornamental cabbages are popular in public spaces now, but were a
> new one on me when I first saw them in the early 1990s at MIT.  Before
> then, I don't think I would have been able to see any connection between
> lace and cabbage.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Pierre: 1 point*
> streuble, n. A small dish used to hold water for washing the fingers.
> cabbaging, n. Decoration consisting of brassicaceous flowers painted on
> the border of a container or dish.frogmouth, n. A ceramic container with
> a lune-shaped opening on the side.
>
> Hutch: 1 point. But isn't "lune" an old fictionary word?
> Nora: These terms are nicely related, and I thought about giving this one
> points, so runner-up points.
>
>
>
> *David:*
> streuble - n. - a six-inch black millipede native to Burma
> cabbaging - n. - a Burmese skink with a red-and-yellow argyle pattern
> frogmouth - n. - a Burmese carnivorous plant
>
> Nicolas: Sounds too German for a British colony?
>
> Nora: Gets my animal vote; however, this looks like a definition I may
> have written, so no points. :)
>
> Hutch: It's never scientific/natural history. Which means that one of
> these days someone is going to pick a word/words like these to throw
> everybody off. Is this the time? But a skink with an ARGYLE pattern??????
>
>
>
>
> *Eric: 1 point*
> streuble, v. To thrash about ineffectively. "As the lieutenant streubled,
> the NCOs led the retreat under fire."
> cabbaging, adj. inferior, unpleasant. "I usually like frozen pizza, but
> this is  cabbaging."
> frogmouth, n. guy-wire from the bottom of the fuselage to the wing in a
> high- or shoulder-wing monoplane. "Don't tighten the frogmouth, it goes
> taut once the wing is under load."
>
> Elliott: One point for the illustrative quotations, but I don't believe
> it.
>
> Nicolas: This is probably it? I like the WWI def.
>
> Nora: Now that I have The Muppet Show reference in my head, I see their
> little arms streubling around in my mind!
>
> Hutch:  I know a little about planes and I've never heard that guy-wire
> referred to as a "frogmouth". And I'm not sure why/how it would or could
> get named so. "Frogmouth" just doesn't seem like it should refer to such a
> linear thing.
>
>
>
>
> *Jean-Joseph: 2 points + 2 for correct guess = 4*
> streuble - n. - A common-law dentist.
> cabbaging - v. - Scouring of the teeth and gums with coral.
> frogmouth - n. - A dental patient whose payments are in arrears.
>
> Fran: 1 point, because I like it but I don't think it is real.
> Eric: Ah, the phrase "common-law dentist" is alone worth a point. Plus
> there's the painful, painful cabbaging. One point.
> Nicolas: If you stay with the same dentist for 10 years...
>
> Hutch: "Common-law" dentist? Does he practice law rather than dentistry?
> Is there law specific to dentistry?
>
> Pierre: Common-law dentist? I'm guessing this is Elliott.
>
> Elliott: Is coral safe to use as a dentifrice?  It's a bit scratchy, I
> should think.
>
>
>
>
> *Hutch: 1 point*
> streuble - v.i. - to pick vegetables for storage before they are ripe;
> the intent being to allow them to ripen in storage
> cabbaging - n. - a storage location (i.e. root cellar) for vegetables
> picked before they are ripe
> frogmouth - n. - a small, usu. ceramic cylinder used to raise stored
> vegetables out of the reach of vermin
>
> David: 1 point
>
> Nicolas: Veggies might be too on the nose, but how else would cabbaging
> come up?
>
> Nora: I like that streuble is a verb, but not quite buying the rest of it.
>
> Hutch: Mine. Looking at them again now, the concept works but the
> cabbaging definition is not particularly well-written. I'm guessing that
> I'll pick up a couple for the "v.i." identification. (That is, I will if I
> got it right; I still have the worst time identifying transitive versus
> intransitive verbs.) But anyone who actually reads the definitions
> carefully will vote elsewhere.
>
> Elliott: Vermin are pretty agile; I'd be surprised if a small ceramic
> cylinder were enough.
>
>
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