[Fictionary] Re: streuble cabbaging frogmouth hurrah

[Nora Munoz]

I was not expecting the "eye" definition to be the real one... And wow, it
pays to play sometimes (thanks for the points, everyone!), but now I have
to come up with a word! I have intermittent internet access for the next
few days but should send out a word soon.
-Nora :)

On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Ranjit Bhatnagar <ranjit at moonmilk.com>
wrote:

> Correction: Fran's def got 2 points. I probably made other elementary
> counting errors in the ballot that I haven't spotted yet - but I'm pretty
> sure Nora won anyway.
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Ranjit Bhatnagar <ranjit at moonmilk.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The eyes have it! The real definitions are from an article about cheese
>> making. The holes in Swiss cheese are known as "eyes". More details below.
>>
>> And the winner is Nora with 16 points - probably one of the largest leads
>> ever won by a definition that wasn't the real one. Take the wheel, Nora -
>> it's your turn to drive the bus!
>>
>> (You might notice that Pierre cast three 1-point votes rather than a
>> 2-pointer and a 1-pointer. Is that legal? I'm going to allow it, but I
>> invite you all to glare sullenly at Pierre if you disapprove. I attribute
>> it to youthful high spirits.)
>>
>> - Ranjit
>>
>>
>>
>> *Fran: 1 point*
>> streuble - n. - wooden disk for pressing fermenting sauerkraut below the
>> liquid level in the frogmouth
>> cabbaging - n. - a weight for holding the streuble down, often decorated
>> with carving.
>> frogmouth - n. - crock for fermenting sauerkraut in
>>
>> Nora: These terms are related, and having to do with German things, and
>> streuble sounds Germanic, so I will give this definition one point!
>>
>> Josh: 1 point (I'm not sure I believe it, but think it deserves credit
>> for something)
>>
>> Nicolas: To quote Weird Al: I. HATE. SAUERKRAUT.
>>
>> Hutch: I'd love for these to be the words, but I just can't believe the
>> phrasing of the streuble definition.
>>
>> Elliott: ``Crock'' is no doubt meant as a coded hint, which I hereby
>> take.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Nora: 16 points*
>> streuble, n. in lace-making, the finest part of the lace that connects
>> the more substantial and intricate needlework.
>> cabbaging, n. large, goffered ruffles, layered about the neck in
>> decorative 18th and 19th century men's clothing.
>> frogmouth, n. in the industrial process of knitting, the term for the
>> hole created by the machinery as it makes the tubes for sweaters, sleeves,
>> socks, etc.
>>
>> Fran: 2 points
>> Nicolas: 2 points, on the grounds that I somehow got close to the real
>> def. That or someone else was thinking much like me.
>>
>> David: 2 points
>>
>> Hutch: 2 points. related but only distantly. All three definitions are
>> phrased very believably.
>>
>> Elliott: Interesting and plausible.  In fact, by far the most plausible
>> def of the lot.  Two points.
>>
>> Josh: 2 points
>>
>> Linda: 2 points - My great-grandmother was a lace-maker, and I've been
>> neglecting my fiber arts lately.
>>
>> Pierre: I'm waffling between ruffles and frills. One point for each.
>>
>> Jean-Joseph: One point.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Linda: 2 points*
>> streuble, n.  A unit of measurement relating to possible voting
>> percentages in an upcoming election.
>> cabbaging, v.  Trying to bolster a candidate's attibutes by filling up
>> his or her biography with attributes that may or may not be true, but could
>> be true.
>> frogmouth, n.  A politician who waffles a lot on issues.
>>
>> Nicolas: 1 point for picturing the current slate of frogmouths.
>>
>> Pierre: British left waffles on Falklands. Who ate them? One point and
>> fifteen streubles.
>>
>> Eric: Cabbaging is a lovely thought, though no points.
>>
>> Nora: Hahaha! Gets my laugh votes.
>>
>> Hutch: That last one definitely OUGHT to be right.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *How Does Swiss Cheese Get Its Holes?*
>> *The New Yorker, June 10, 2015
>> <http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/how-does-swiss-cheese-get-its-holes> -
>> 2 points*
>> streuble, n. an overabundance of small eyes
>> cabbaging, n. overcrowded, irregular eyes
>> frogmouth, n. spindle-shaped eyes
>>
>> *“It’s the hardest cheese to make well,” Stephanie Clark, a dairy
>> specialist at Iowa State University, told me. “There are so many steps in
>> the process, and the list of things that can go wrong is almost endless.”
>> In addition to blindness, Swiss cheese can suffer from streuble (an
>> overabundance of small eyes just under the rind); cabbaging (overcrowded,
>> irregular eyes); frogmouth (spindle-shaped eyes); or any one of about a
>> dozen other defects, including dull or dead eyes, in which the eye walls
>> lack what Clark described as the “preferred shiny lustre.”*
>>
>> Jean-Joseph: 2 points.
>>
>> Nicolas: Creepy.
>>
>> Nora: Spiders!
>>
>> Hutch: The eyes have it? No, sorry
>>
>> Elliott: What's the normative number of eyes?  And what kind of eyes are
>> we talking about here?  The ones you see with?  The ones you stick thread
>> through?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Nicolas: 6 points*
>> streuble, n. A high-necked bodice, similar to a dirndl.
>> cabbaging, n. A multilayer decorative frill emerging from sleeve or
>> collar; popular in late 19th century Saxony.
>> frogmouth, n. 1. An extremely pronounced grimace or frown triggered by
>> pulling the platysma taut. 2. A historical medical diagnosis, probably
>> thyromegaly.
>>
>> I'm sorry, Nicolas - I lost track of your sample sentence while compiling
>> the ballot:  "As everyone knows, improper cabbaging on your streuble can
>> lead to frogmouth."
>>
>> Eric: Two points. Based mostly on the frogmouth. And the ridiculousness
>> of all the other contenders. Although isn't a dirndl a kind of skirt . . . ?
>>
>> Nora: This person thinks like me, or is the dictionary because of the
>> clothing reference. Also, I like that frogmouth is a deep frown, which
>> seems plausible, but not as related. But it makes me think of Beeker from
>> the old Muppet Show!  Two points
>>
>> Pierre: I'm waffling between ruffles and frills. One point for each. Besides,
>> I'm guessing, some body part that is wide or flat, "platysma" is also Lojban
>> for making planned silence.
>>
>> Linda: 1 point- Need to resume sewing medieval costumes for SCA--my son
>> Greg and his family are very active, with his wife Daphne having quite an
>> input and output.
>>
>> Hutch: The first two are great, but how is a grimace or frown related to
>> the other two. Ranjit said the word had related meanings ... I think?
>>
>> Elliott: Hmm, another frothy-lace def for ``cabbaging''.  Frilly,
>> colorful ornamental cabbages are popular in public spaces now, but were a
>> new one on me when I first saw them in the early 1990s at MIT.  Before
>> then, I don't think I would have been able to see any connection between
>> lace and cabbage.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Pierre: 1 point*
>> streuble, n. A small dish used to hold water for washing the fingers.
>> cabbaging, n. Decoration consisting of brassicaceous flowers painted on
>> the border of a container or dish.frogmouth, n. A ceramic container with
>> a lune-shaped opening on the side.
>>
>> Hutch: 1 point. But isn't "lune" an old fictionary word?
>> Nora: These terms are nicely related, and I thought about giving this
>> one points, so runner-up points.
>>
>>
>>
>> *David:*
>> streuble - n. - a six-inch black millipede native to Burma
>> cabbaging - n. - a Burmese skink with a red-and-yellow argyle pattern
>> frogmouth - n. - a Burmese carnivorous plant
>>
>> Nicolas: Sounds too German for a British colony?
>>
>> Nora: Gets my animal vote; however, this looks like a definition I may
>> have written, so no points. :)
>>
>> Hutch: It's never scientific/natural history. Which means that one of
>> these days someone is going to pick a word/words like these to throw
>> everybody off. Is this the time? But a skink with an ARGYLE pattern??????
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Eric: 1 point*
>> streuble, v. To thrash about ineffectively. "As the lieutenant streubled,
>> the NCOs led the retreat under fire."
>> cabbaging, adj. inferior, unpleasant. "I usually like frozen pizza, but
>> this is  cabbaging."
>> frogmouth, n. guy-wire from the bottom of the fuselage to the wing in a
>> high- or shoulder-wing monoplane. "Don't tighten the frogmouth, it goes
>> taut once the wing is under load."
>>
>> Elliott: One point for the illustrative quotations, but I don't believe
>> it.
>>
>> Nicolas: This is probably it? I like the WWI def.
>>
>> Nora: Now that I have The Muppet Show reference in my head, I see their
>> little arms streubling around in my mind!
>>
>> Hutch:  I know a little about planes and I've never heard that guy-wire
>> referred to as a "frogmouth". And I'm not sure why/how it would or could
>> get named so. "Frogmouth" just doesn't seem like it should refer to such a
>> linear thing.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Jean-Joseph: 2 points + 2 for correct guess = 4*
>> streuble - n. - A common-law dentist.
>> cabbaging - v. - Scouring of the teeth and gums with coral.
>> frogmouth - n. - A dental patient whose payments are in arrears.
>>
>> Fran: 1 point, because I like it but I don't think it is real.
>> Eric: Ah, the phrase "common-law dentist" is alone worth a point. Plus
>> there's the painful, painful cabbaging. One point.
>> Nicolas: If you stay with the same dentist for 10 years...
>>
>> Hutch: "Common-law" dentist? Does he practice law rather than dentistry?
>> Is there law specific to dentistry?
>>
>> Pierre: Common-law dentist? I'm guessing this is Elliott.
>>
>> Elliott: Is coral safe to use as a dentifrice?  It's a bit scratchy, I
>> should think.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Hutch: 1 point*
>> streuble - v.i. - to pick vegetables for storage before they are ripe;
>> the intent being to allow them to ripen in storage
>> cabbaging - n. - a storage location (i.e. root cellar) for vegetables
>> picked before they are ripe
>> frogmouth - n. - a small, usu. ceramic cylinder used to raise stored
>> vegetables out of the reach of vermin
>>
>> David: 1 point
>>
>> Nicolas: Veggies might be too on the nose, but how else would cabbaging
>> come up?
>>
>> Nora: I like that streuble is a verb, but not quite buying the rest of
>> it.
>>
>> Hutch: Mine. Looking at them again now, the concept works but the
>> cabbaging definition is not particularly well-written. I'm guessing that
>> I'll pick up a couple for the "v.i." identification. (That is, I will if I
>> got it right; I still have the worst time identifying transitive versus
>> intransitive verbs.) But anyone who actually reads the definitions
>> carefully will vote elsewhere.
>>
>> Elliott: Vermin are pretty agile; I'd be surprised if a small ceramic
>> cylinder were enough.
>>
>>
>>
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